I am aware
that my interpretations of Sarepta’s exon-skipping data for Duchenne Muscular
Dystrophy are not universally embraced.
But one point that I believe all of us can agree on is that it would be
important to determine whether the antisense oligo eteplirsen can restore
sufficient Becker-type dystrophin to have a therapeutic effect. Although falling short of a controlled
clinical outcome study, one way to gain accelerated approval for this devastating disease would be to first establish
what this ‘magic’ level is through historical outcomes studies and then compare this value to the levels actually restored
following drug treatment.
Western
blot not worth the film
The latter
point is particularly bothersome as any molecular biologist would know that even
two supposedly identically processed protein samples will show numerous bands
that are present in just one of the samples if only you expose the Westerns for
long enough. Ergo, the particular Western blot does not live up to being even merely ‘supportive’
as the company had claimed until recently because it now seems that even the company is only guessing that the cropped band shown is the one based on predicted size (note: proteins do not even migrate on Western gels according to known size...charge etc).
All this
begs the question of why Sarepta never developed a reliable quantitative assay
(e.g. an ELISA) before entering clinical development and making the case for
biomarker-based accelerated approval.
Counting
dystropin-positive fibers by immunofluorescence does not address magic number
This alas
leaves us with the immunofluorescence (IF) assay data. Sarepta and their collaborator have counted
and presented numbers, so this surely must mean that the IF data are ‘quantitative’?
Wrong.
As I keep pressing the point, the IF assay (at
best) can only determine if there was a increase
in dystrophin. Manipulate the exposure
times and picture contrasts enough and you can magnify any difference in dystrophin levels out of proportion. Again, this
is no revelation to the molecular biologists and hobby photographers here, and
I won’t even start to discuss the issues arising out of comparing IF numbers from
experiments conducted at different dates and from different muscles.
By way of
example, say you obtain an average signal level of 1.5 due to naturally occurring alternative splicing noise when measuring background, with the vast majority of
fibers being below 2.0 and with some rare revertant fibers exceeding that value
manifold. Then you treat with eteplirsen
and you find that the signal level increased to between 2.2 and 2.8 in 70% of
fibers. You then set the background
arbitrarily to be 2.0, subtract the few revertant fibers, et voila, you
determine that 65-70% of fibers have started to express dystrophin following
drug treatment although the absolute increase in dystrophin produced is well
below what we would predict to be therapeutic: from 1.5 to about 2.5.
Leaving
it open what that ‘magic number’ actually refers to
Consequently,
IF is ill suited to address the issue of the ‘magic number’ as Mr Garabedian
called it. It would have been incredibly
helpful for him to have elaborated what he actually meant with the ‘magic number’. Does he really believe that counting fibers
allows you to get at this issue, as he implied in his answer*, or would he agree
that it should be with respect to the absolute amount of dystrophin? I hope the company will clarify that point almost as quickly as they declared the image duplication event an honest mistake.
What do you think? Should the ‘magic
number’ refer to counting dystrophin-positive fibers or quantitating the
absolute amount of dystrophin?
Participate on the poll on the right hand top.
* Making a
circular argument, the CEO said that ‘yes’ they know they have surpassed the
magic number because of the claimed 6MWT improvements. Note that in making the case for a biomarker like
dystrophin, it should be the amount of biomarker that supports functional
outcomes like 6MWT e.g. through some quantitative correlation- not the other
way around.
Garabedian said that he was told to go ahead and file an NDA for regular approval....and that once it's filed the FDA can chose to grant it accelerated approval or anything else it wants. So the issue of a surrogate marker and all the well worn complaints you now discuss are moot. If a surrogate marker and te means for measurement are ever settled on by the FDA I'm sure they will let you know.
ReplyDeleteGarabedian essentially discarding the Western blot (which nevertheless had been presented in scientific settings before) as useless, is news to me. Worth discussing IMO given the importance of eteplirsen. Oligo society journal to even devote special issue on the 'challenges' of developing DMD drug.
ReplyDeleteSo what if it's news to you that Garabedian repeated your own scepticism about Western Blot? And devoting an issue to the challenges of DMD drug development also has nothing to do with any general discussion of Western Blot's effectiveness. If they mentuion it at all it would be in passing. The challenges in 'developing a DMD drug lie elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteMaybe had you chosen to add Sarepta or AVII to your portfolio before the news of the drug's effectiveness came out last October, you'd no where the interesting problems in DMD drug development really lie, and you'd find more interesting ways to attack the company than quibbling over unreliable measuring techniques.
The drug works. Have you seen videos of Max and Billy doing things that normally wouldn't have been possible for kids with DMD, almost two years since they enrolled in the trial? Or are you blind to that?
ReplyDeleteEveryone--the scientists at GSK and Prosensa, I mean everyone, even blogger Dirk who got his feelings hurt when SRPT succeeded and TKMR failed--knows eteplirsen works. That's not the issue. The issue is that Dirk is insinuating that Sarepta has manipulated signal levels and background levels. He has no evidence to back up these allegations. Real scientists base their arguments on evidence. Dirk has no evidence, so he makes false accusations based on hurt feelings and bitterness.
ReplyDeleteThe Romans ordered the death penalty for those who made false accusations. I wonder what the penalty will be in civil court today?
An Oxford (UK) based company are close to completing a biomarker programe to measure Utrophin. Hope this helps.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.summitplc.com/userfiles/file/2013_RNS_03%20Utrophin%20Biomarker%20FED%20Award%20FINAL.pdf
I read the interesting details about product information from this Canaccord Genuity's 33rd Annual Growth Conference Transcript. You can read it too @ http://www.earningsimpact.com/Transcript/83004/SRPT/Sarepta-Therapeutics%2c-Inc----Canaccord-Genuityandapos%3bs-33rd-Annual-Growth-Conference#sthash.4Frd0lFO.dpuf
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